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d00d 03-05-2008 11:56 AM
Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
I got back in to Pd yesterday on the dip and was curious why people here say the fundamentals are positive for Pd.

I know about the power shortage, is there more to it than that?

DrillAndFill 03-05-2008 12:12 PM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
Here it is in brief. it's a near-substitute for platinum in some applications, such as diesel exhaust catalysts. It has some marvelous properties with all sorts of applications -- it can sequester hydrogen like nobody's business. It is more rare than gold, but at half the price, although if relative rarity counted for anything, silver would be $80 right now.

For more detail, go to Search -> Advanced Search -> Search by Key Word, input "silverbach palladium", click "show threads", and let the tsunami wash over you.

Brocktoon 03-05-2008 12:13 PM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
There is pretty good thread from last summer. If you search for posts by myself and silverbach, you could prolly find it, but I'm on my way to a meeting, and can't do the search myself, but it was a pretty good one.

d00d 03-05-2008 12:36 PM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
ok Ill read up on it thanks

californiajeff 03-06-2008 11:44 AM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
Another significant use for Palladium is cold fusion. It has been definitely proven and the trick now is for scientists to make it commercially reliable. Cold fusion is shaking up the scientific world even though they don't fully understand it yet.

Unclad Lad 03-09-2008 01:33 AM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
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Another significant use for Palladium is cold fusion. It has been definitely proven and the trick now is for scientists to make it commercially reliable. Cold fusion is shaking up the scientific world even though they don't fully understand it yet.
Er, not quite. Scientist who are able to duplicate the Pons results (and a lot of them can't) see that something is happening. Whether that something is fusion or something else is still up in the air.

Still, palladium has a lot of other industrial uses.

madhu 03-09-2008 03:51 AM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
hey drill,
you said it sequesters hydrogen? why is that important.
thanks
what is cold fusion?

DrillAndFill 03-09-2008 04:27 AM
Re: Can you explain the fundamentals for Palladium to me?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by madhu (Post 1002408)
hey drill,
you said it sequesters hydrogen? why is that important.
thanks
what is cold fusion?
Look up "palladium hydride".

For example:
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A silvery-white metal named after the goddess of wisdom. It doesn't tarnish in air. Mixing it with gold produces the white gold used in jewelry. Closely related to platinum, it's used in dentistry, watchmaking, surgical instruments and electrical contacts. The metal is palladium, number 46 on the periodic chart, and its most remarkable property, actually, is none of the above. Palladium soaks up hydrogen like a sponge -- that is, if you can imagine a sponge that soaks up hundreds of buckets of water. At room temperature and atmospheric pressure, palladium can absorb up to 900 times its own volume of hydrogen. "That means," says Khalid Mansour, "that if you were to pump hydrogen into a bottle, it would take enormous pressure to store the same amount easily absorbed in a palladium bed of the same volume."
Such behavior is connected with the use of palladium-silver alloys in hydrogen purification:

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The discovery of palladium’s remarkable ability to absorb hydrogen has since lead to uses which take advantage of this affinity. As a thin membrane, palladium will allow hydrogen to permeate through the membrane, but block all other gases. The further discovery of the stability of palladium-silver alloys and the ability to manufacture membranes of these alloys made hydrogen purification using palladium–silver membranes possible.
I know little about cold fusion, because it doesn't work. However, there are many GIM members who display extreme cynicism toward mainstream, repeatable, peer-reviewed scientific conclusions, yet uncritically embrace isolated fringe science. They will be more than happy to fill you in on cold fusion.

FWIW, I'm dollar-cost averaging into palladium at a good clip through the rest of the year.


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